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	<title>Comments on: A Lack of Running Etiquette</title>
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		<title>By: WordNerd</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnet87.com/2007/11/19/a-lack-of-running-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>WordNerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiwigirl--I understand wanting to push yourself, but I respectfully disagree that what you do is not a competition.  If you make an effort to go faster than these women are, you&#039;re trying to beat them.  They may respond in kind or be annoyed.  I get annoyed because I see treadmill training as independent from racing.

Personally, in treadmill training, I like to beat myself.  I note down every run and have noticed a gradual increase in my speed over the past few months.  That&#039;s more satisfying that sneaking peeks at treadmill readouts.  I don&#039;t need to go faster than the men or the women at the gym; I just need to know that my run went well enough to help me improve.  It&#039;ll help me pass people on race day, an experience I can&#039;t duplicate on the treadmill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiwigirl&#8211;I understand wanting to push yourself, but I respectfully disagree that what you do is not a competition.  If you make an effort to go faster than these women are, you&#8217;re trying to beat them.  They may respond in kind or be annoyed.  I get annoyed because I see treadmill training as independent from racing.</p>
<p>Personally, in treadmill training, I like to beat myself.  I note down every run and have noticed a gradual increase in my speed over the past few months.  That&#8217;s more satisfying that sneaking peeks at treadmill readouts.  I don&#8217;t need to go faster than the men or the women at the gym; I just need to know that my run went well enough to help me improve.  It&#8217;ll help me pass people on race day, an experience I can&#8217;t duplicate on the treadmill.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwigirl</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnet87.com/2007/11/19/a-lack-of-running-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why boys feel the need to do this, but I definitely do this with other girls.

Maybe its bad etiquette, but it really motivates me when I run, to try and always run faster than the person next to me.  And I run between 6.0 and 7.0 on average on the treadmill. 

Hmmm, I&#039;ve never really thought about how it could be annoying though.  I&#039;m not competing with the person - I&#039;m just trying to push myself.

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why boys feel the need to do this, but I definitely do this with other girls.</p>
<p>Maybe its bad etiquette, but it really motivates me when I run, to try and always run faster than the person next to me.  And I run between 6.0 and 7.0 on average on the treadmill. </p>
<p>Hmmm, I&#8217;ve never really thought about how it could be annoying though.  I&#8217;m not competing with the person &#8211; I&#8217;m just trying to push myself.</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel you, as the young&#039;uns say. when i am on a treadmill, and there are other free machines , and someone plops his or her keister next to me, i ask if they are aware of treadmill etiquette... if the gym is largely empty, i move away from people for a reason.. its the henry thoreau in me...
(ha)
as for the competition thing, well, what can i say? men of my gender ( to quote groucho marx) are a mess... no wonder we don&#039;t live as long...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel you, as the young&#8217;uns say. when i am on a treadmill, and there are other free machines , and someone plops his or her keister next to me, i ask if they are aware of treadmill etiquette&#8230; if the gym is largely empty, i move away from people for a reason.. its the henry thoreau in me&#8230;<br />
(ha)<br />
as for the competition thing, well, what can i say? men of my gender ( to quote groucho marx) are a mess&#8230; no wonder we don&#8217;t live as long&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it is even worse at building gyms that people don&#039;t pay a membership, and thus there is no staff to ever clean the equipment or give a menacing glance towards offenders!

James &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dcmetrocentric.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DCMetrocentric&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it is even worse at building gyms that people don&#8217;t pay a membership, and thus there is no staff to ever clean the equipment or give a menacing glance towards offenders!</p>
<p>James <a href="http://www.dcmetrocentric.com" rel="nofollow">DCMetrocentric</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Mahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Mahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess some guys need motivation, however petty and insignificant.  I hate the gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess some guys need motivation, however petty and insignificant.  I hate the gym.</p>
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		<title>By: WordNerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordNerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AM--I have to say that IP made that comment on Sunday night, too, but a couple of things lead me to think not.  One is that they become focused on my treadmill display.  If I lift my towel, they immediately look over *and* increase their speed when I do.  Another is that there really isn&#039;t a bad spot to watch TV when it comes to the treadmills.  They&#039;re the equipment that take up the middle space of the gym and they&#039;re pretty well-angled.  Then again, I don&#039;t watch TV while I&#039;m there--Lou Dobbs is always on and I&#039;d rather run a marathon unprepared than watch that ass (I bet he sneaks peeks at treadmills, too).

But it is a possibility, true. :)  And I have to agree with the smelly part of your comment, sometimes that can totally ruin a run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AM&#8211;I have to say that IP made that comment on Sunday night, too, but a couple of things lead me to think not.  One is that they become focused on my treadmill display.  If I lift my towel, they immediately look over *and* increase their speed when I do.  Another is that there really isn&#8217;t a bad spot to watch TV when it comes to the treadmills.  They&#8217;re the equipment that take up the middle space of the gym and they&#8217;re pretty well-angled.  Then again, I don&#8217;t watch TV while I&#8217;m there&#8211;Lou Dobbs is always on and I&#8217;d rather run a marathon unprepared than watch that ass (I bet he sneaks peeks at treadmills, too).</p>
<p>But it is a possibility, true. :)  And I have to agree with the smelly part of your comment, sometimes that can totally ruin a run.</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing is, maybe you&#039;ve got the good spot for watching TV in the gym and the guys want to get as good a view. I mean, probably not, but at least they don&#039;t smell bad right? That is my #1 gym pet peeve - smelly people next to you. Ick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing is, maybe you&#8217;ve got the good spot for watching TV in the gym and the guys want to get as good a view. I mean, probably not, but at least they don&#8217;t smell bad right? That is my #1 gym pet peeve &#8211; smelly people next to you. Ick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Critic</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.  I too am a runner (and formerly from Michigan) and notice the same thing when I&#039;m on the treadmills at the gym.  You&#039;re right -- it only seems to happen above 6.2 mph.  (When I was recovering from a knee injury, no one tried to race me when I kept it at 5.8 mph.)  Occasionally, when I can tell that the guy next to me isn&#039;t in very good shape and is just trying to prove his manhood, I will crank up the speed to 7.1 and bust out a fast, last mile.  At least then, I know that he will be tired for the rest of his run.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.  I too am a runner (and formerly from Michigan) and notice the same thing when I&#8217;m on the treadmills at the gym.  You&#8217;re right &#8212; it only seems to happen above 6.2 mph.  (When I was recovering from a knee injury, no one tried to race me when I kept it at 5.8 mph.)  Occasionally, when I can tell that the guy next to me isn&#8217;t in very good shape and is just trying to prove his manhood, I will crank up the speed to 7.1 and bust out a fast, last mile.  At least then, I know that he will be tired for the rest of his run.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Zandria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zandria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very annoying how some people think they have to beat/challenge someone else at the gym.  We all have our personal fitness goals; it&#039;s not like we&#039;re going there to compete against someone else.  There is no prize involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very annoying how some people think they have to beat/challenge someone else at the gym.  We all have our personal fitness goals; it&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re going there to compete against someone else.  There is no prize involved.</p>
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		<title>By: charlotteharris</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlotteharris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with the unspoken leave-an-empty-treadmill-in-between rule, unless they start to really fill up.  I can relate to some of your stories - I don&#039;t run quite as much as you do, but the same weird things happen in the lanes at the pool too.  I have even had complete strangers practically swim over the top of me in their competetive frenzy instead of waiting until the end of the lap to pass... It&#039;s not a race, people!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with the unspoken leave-an-empty-treadmill-in-between rule, unless they start to really fill up.  I can relate to some of your stories &#8211; I don&#8217;t run quite as much as you do, but the same weird things happen in the lanes at the pool too.  I have even had complete strangers practically swim over the top of me in their competetive frenzy instead of waiting until the end of the lap to pass&#8230; It&#8217;s not a race, people!  ;-)</p>
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